Forms of constitutional argument are validated by their presence in practice, not by approval
Evidence
In my case, I will sometimes correct an argument that is poorly formed. Or I may say, “That is a conclusion. Give me an argument.” Or I may say, “That is not a legal argument. Give me an argument in law.” And this practice, the way a golf pro at a country club might watch a club member hit tee shots, is meant to familiarize the student with the forms of constitutional argument. So it can be said that I am (tacitly, perhaps) approving certain forms of argument, but the reason I am doing so is because these forms of argument are the ones that are approved-are validated by their ever-presence in the practice. The “normativity” here is simply that the rules constituting a practice are norms. It is not the normativity of justification. I am not approving these forms of argument because I approve of them. — Philip Chase Bobbitt, Reflections Inspired by My Critics, 437
Categorization
- SEED: The distinction between practice-validated norms and norms of justification could anchor an essay on how legal education inculcates legitimacy without justifying content.
- XREF: connects to: Historical prevalence of a practice does not immunize it from the Eighth Amendment. — , The Rod and the Child: A Global History…, 9425; Written constitutional rights fail when the community collectively opposes them; Balkin and Levinson conclude that I must either accept whatever is practiced or abandon my pose as simply a descriptive observer. These descriptions depend on several assumptions that I do not share, and especially on conflating the ideas of legitimacy and justification and ignoring the distinction between constitutional decisionmaking and constitutional discourse. (+16 more)
Related
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- and their presence in our political discourse does not require us to deny them legitimacy or to corrupt our forms of decision according to law. American constitutional law can be a profoundly… (similarity 0.91)
- Balkin and Levinson conclude that I must either accept whatever is practiced or abandon my pose as simply a descriptive observer. These descriptions depend on several assumptions that I do not… (similarity 0.89)
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- Legitimacy can be derived from constitutional practices rather than from justifications. (similarity 0.86)
- Constitutional argument and constitutional discourse are distinct activities with different boundaries. (similarity 0.85)
- US constitutional argument forms derive from common-law modes overlaid on the state. (similarity 0.84)
- I further believed that journalists, and citizens generally, could make use of these forms of legal argument, although they were not confined to legal argument in making constitutional decisions… (similarity 0.83)
- A constitutional grammar lets nonjudicial actors reason legally about constitutional questions. (similarity 0.83)
- Constitutional interpretation and constitutional discourse are distinct practices. (similarity 0.83)
- Constitutional law’s foundational modalities derive legitimacy from use alone, not external validation. (similarity 0.82)
- Legal and non-legal deciders draw on different but overlapping argument forms. (similarity 0.81)
- Legitimacy and justification are distinct concepts in constitutional theory. (similarity 0.81)
- Opinion arguments rationalize decisions rather than explain how they are reached. (similarity 0.79)
Broader Connections
- As he does with Wittgenstein, Winter intends to indict me for the particularist fallacy and for practice fetishism, though in my case it is not because I am a behaviorist, but because I am a…
#responds-to(0.80) - Legal and non-legal deciders draw on different but overlapping argument forms.
#expands(0.70) — Philip Chase Bobbitt, Reflections Inspired by My Critics, 496 - Appeal to tradition may be legitimate within constitutional law
#exemplifies(0.60) — Ruggero J. Aldisert, Agatha D. Aldisert, Logic for Lawyers- A Guide to Clear…, 1068 - A constitutional grammar lets nonjudicial actors reason legally about constitutional questions.
#expands(0.60) — Philip Chase Bobbitt, Reflections Inspired by My Critics, 526