Guild socialism had to survive inside capitalist markets it sought to replace

Evidence

The force of Marxism as such, as Marx himself projected it, was to have combined an argument about the desirability of socialism (and the intolerability of capitalism) with a demonstration of the ways in which socialism was already coming into being within capitalism, in which capitalism by some features of its logic was already creating the structures of socialism, and in which socialism is not staged as an ideal or a Utopia but a tendential and emergent set of already existing structures. — Fredric Jameson, Postmodernism, or, The Cultural Logic…, 466 (#corroborates, via linked claim)

Understandably, this turned out to be much easier said than done in 1960s America, and most of the communes had vexed relationships with the capitalist world outside. After all, mortgages had to be paid, children had to be raised, and most communes couldn’t grow all of their own food. Even if they were far from the city, they were still in America. — Jenny Odell, How to Do Nothing, 162 (#exemplifies, via linked claim)

Categorization

• XREF: connects to: British guild socialism aimed to eliminate private profit as the driver of production — Clara E. Mattei, The Capital Order: How Economists…, 433; Postwar state support briefly enabled guild socialism before austerity funds were cut; Socialism emerges within capitalism as existing structures rather than an ideal — Fredric Jameson, Postmodernism, or, The Cultural Logic…, 466 (+5 more)

Related

• Gradualist worker cooperatives still depended on surviving inside capitalist markets (similarity 0.81)
• Commune members remained financially enmeshed in capitalism (similarity 0.80)

Broader Connections

• Socialism emerges within capitalism as existing structures rather than an ideal #corroborates (0.85) — Fredric Jameson, Postmodernism, or, The Cultural Logic…, 466
• Early socialism did not negate capitalist society #corroborates (0.80)
• Commune members remained financially enmeshed in capitalism #exemplifies (0.78) — Jenny Odell, How to Do Nothing, 162
• Bourgeoisie could grow within feudal states, but socialism cannot grow within capitalism #qualifies (0.72) — Antonio Gramsci, Selections from the Prison Notebooks, 382